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again, dennis rodman turns up on a "roman holiday." >>> and wouldn't you know, papal sea gull is now trending on twitter. let's hope it doesn't get covered with black smoke. good day i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. for a second day voting is indeed under way. when the 115 voting cardinals agree on a choice, who can garner 77 votes, puffs of white smoke will billow from this chimney, signaling that the church has a new leader. coyning me from the vatican, nbc's chris jansing and father john. thanks for being with us, chris. talk about what has happened so far today. there was earlier voting this morning. >> reporter: they're in the conclave right now. in fact, there already could have been another vote today. we don't know for sure. enough time has probably passed. if it isn't a positive affirmative we have a new pope, we wouldn't see anything. they wait until they've had two votes, then, for the chimney to start billowing its smoke. earlier today, as you said, they did have two votes. it was black smoke. then they went to lunch, it was a long break, almost five hours long. we
, and this is not just conventional wis ddom that dennis mcdonough s made a difference, this is outreach to members whom he's never met before, republicans. >> well i mean the members he hadn't met before or hadn't heard him speak, this is a fourth meeting the president has had with the entire house republican conference. since he became president. and the only year he didn't have a meeting was during an election year last year. >> but jay, paul ryan, at their lunch, paul ryan's lunch was their first conversation other than the brief meeting at the house republican caucus. so it was the first time that he had actually sat down as republican budget chair with the president. united states to talk about policy and the way forward. >> first of all, again andrea, i could bore your viewers to death with the list of meetings the president has had with congressional republicans, it goes on and on and the hours he spent with the speaker of the house and congressional leaders in 2001. i think rivalled engagement at that level of any recent president in, with their opposition counterparts. there's no, there's no c
with this young leader who is completely bellicose in his rhetoric -- >> and you've got dennis rodman, who is able to negotiate with him. >> everybody should feel calm about that. >> unlike israel, i don't think united states has a sense of how to deal with north korea in an effective way. and of course of great alarm to south korea which is sitting there just -- >> with a newly elected president in the last couple of days. the north korean leader, kim jong un went even beyond what he had done before in using sexist, demeaning, colloquial language about the first female president of south korea who was just inaugurated. he seems to want to spark controversy there. and hamid karzai, the constellation of problems that the president faces in foreign policy. afghanistan, a huge problem with karzai behaving in such a way that it's going to inflame congress, if not the white house. it's awfully hard to keep saying well he's got domestic political problems. he is the -- he's the leader we have to deal with. but it's not going well. >> all of this is an illustration of it feels like it's particularly seco
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